Hmmm. I had to read your post several times by: Kerri Knox, RN- The Immune Queen!
Hi,
I had to read your post several times in order to understand what you were trying to say, but I finally figured it out. As far as I know, autoimmune thyroid is 'Defined' by its having thyroid antibodies.
If there are no thyroid antibodies, then it's 'Just' hypothyroid and not 'autoimmune' thyroid.
Could you give me some more details about why you believe that you have an autoimmune thyroid with no antibodies and we'll go from there...
Kerri Knox, RN- The Immune System Queen Functional Medicine Practitioner Immune System
My doc says I have Hashi's, as a small percentage of Hashi's patients have no antibodies detected. How can that be? In that case, what's doing the damage to the thyroid? Maybe it's not TPOab or TGab antibodies but some other thyroid attacking antibody?
Could herbs like Coleus forskolli and guggul cause hypothyroid?
I'm still confused... by: Kerri Knox, RN- The Immune Queen!
So, I'm still a bit confused. The 'Definition' of Hashimoto's Thyroiditis is due to the presence of autoantibodies to thyroid.
I don't understand how your doctor could possibly say that there is an autoimmune antibody attacking your thyroid if there is no presence of antibodies?
Did he do a biopsy of your thyroid?
Most doctors have a hard enough time finding hypothyroid as it is, and for them to find Hashi's is even harder- let alone Hashi's without antiboidies! It doesn't really make any sense to me, but being as I'm not a 'Thyroid Expert', I've asked one to chime in on this and see what he says about this.
Therefore, Duncan Capicchiano a Naturopathic Doctor and author of The Hypothyroid Solution will be commenting on this and the herbs that you asked about.
But I'll address the Vitamin D issue.
So, yes, Vitamin d is the antibiotic vitamin and it can certainly help with any autoimmune problems- or thyroid problems in general because it can increase energy and muscular strength- so symptoms of hypothyroid can improve.
HOWEVER, nearly everyone that writes in to this site who has vitamin d deficiency and (Fill in the blank) problem, wants to know if vitamin d is going to 'Fix' their problem.
While in some cases it does, in the VAST majority of cases, it is only a 'part' of getting you better. Having vitamin d deficiency wasn't the primary cause of you getting hypothyroid (no matter what the cause) and therefore 'JUST' becoming vitamin d sufficient will not 'fix' your hypothyroid. There is no magic bullet that will.
But taking a whole body approach, such as is in the book The Hypothyroid Solution, definitely can reverse your hypothyroid and reverse any autoimmune processes that you have going on.
And I'll let Dr. Capicchiano comment on this next.
Kerri Knox, RN- The Immune System Queen Functional Medicine Practitioner Immune System
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Yes I am happy to clarify. Yes Hashimoto's Disease is an auto-immune disease, therefore by definition, requires the presence of immune anti-bodies.
Unfortunately in Hashimoto's Disease the body "believes" that the thyroid is a foreign object and therefore mounts an immune attack to destroy the invading tissue. There are many beliefs of why this occurs, though through experience it can be triggered through pregnancy, past viral and parasitic infections, poor digestive health, as well as low grade systemic inflammation.
As for the herbs you mentioned, Guggul and Coleus, they would not cause Hypothyroid. I go over their use for the thyroid in my book The Hypothyroid Solution and they are in fact are VERY beneficial herbs to boost thyroid function and the production of the thyroid hormones.
However, this will not at all help the unbalanced immune system (the Root cause). For this you need herbs such as Astragalus, Echinacea, Rehmannia and Hemidesmus and dietary changes as well.
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